The Optimal Days to List a Vehicle for Sale

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Why a Shorter Vehicle Listing Is Not Ideal

Selling a vehicle, whether privately or through an online platform, requires careful consideration of how long to list it for sale. Many sellers may be tempted to put their vehicle up for a short period, hoping for a quick sale. However, this strategy often doesn’t lead to the best outcome. The optimal duration to list a vehicle for sale is typically dependent on the market and type of vehicle. 14 days allows for a broader audience. Some subscribers may not log on daily, so a longer duration is sometimes better. The downfall of a 14-day listing is some users do not want to see the same vehicle for 2 weeks.

Here, we’ll explore why a longer listing duration is better than a brief one and how setting an appropriate timeframe can maximize your chances of selling at a fair price.

Why 10 Days is the Ideal Vehicle Listing Duration

More Exposure and Potential Buyers
Vehicles are purchased through a process of research and comparison. Most buyers will take time to explore different options, especially when it comes to high-ticket items like cars, trucks, and motorcycles. By listing your vehicle for at least 10 days, you ensure that it is visible to a larger pool of potential buyers. Online listings, in particular, work on algorithms that display cars more prominently when they have been listed for a longer time. As you approach the 10-day mark, your vehicle is more likely to surface on the search results as buyers cycle through their searches.

The Timing of Buyer Decisions
Vehicle purchases aren’t typically made on impulse. Most people will visit multiple websites, visit dealerships, and take their time deciding. A shorter listing period can force potential buyers to make a hasty decision. This could lead to either the vehicle being undervalued or the buyer walking away due to rushed feelings. A longer listing period gives buyers the space to make an informed, thoughtful decision, which can lead to a higher likelihood of completing the transaction.

The Seasonal Aspect of Car Sales
The time of year can have a significant impact on vehicle sales. For example, certain models may sell better during specific seasons, such as convertibles in the summer or four-wheel-drive vehicles in the winter. By keeping a listing up for a longer period, you can account for the fluctuations in demand that may occur during these seasonal changes. A shorter listing might miss the ideal window when more buyers are looking for specific types of vehicles.

Building Trust with Buyers
When a vehicle is listed for a longer time, it signals that the seller is confident in the vehicle’s value and is not in a hurry to unload it quickly. A short listing period, on the other hand, can give the impression that the seller is desperate. Or, that the vehicle may have issues that are pushing them to sell quickly. Buyers tend to avoid “rush” sales and prefer those with ample time to evaluate the vehicle thoroughly. A longer listing builds trust. It signals that you’re patient and willing to wait for the right buyer at a fair price.

Why Shorter Durations Are Not Optimal

Missed Opportunities
With a shorter listing period, you may limit the number of potential buyers who come across your vehicle. If you’re trying to save a few dollars on fees, you may miss out on interested buyers who just haven’t had the time to notice your listing yet. The tradeoff of saving a few dollars isn’t worth it when it comes to giving your car the best chance to sell.

Lack of Exposure Across the Platform
Many people browse multiple platforms before making a decision. A short listing duration on a single website means that if a buyer has missed your vehicle, they may never see it again. It’s important to keep your listing active for at least 10 days. Then, you are not relying solely on short-term visibility.

Rushed Decisions Lead to Buyer’s Remorse
Short listing durations may force potential buyers to act impulsively. While this might seem like a good thing in theory, it can also backfire. Buyers may make a rushed decision and not go through with the purchase. At the end of the day, as a seller, you want the right buyer with the right intentions. This is when a listing duration longer than 7 days would be optimal and a better use of your time.

A Well-Planned Vehicle Listing Leads to More Success

A well-planned approach to listing your vehicle is key to securing a successful sale. While the temptation to set a short listing duration might seem appealing, the risks typically outweigh the benefits. Allowing 10 to 14 days for your listing to remain active provides you with the opportunity for more exposure, and the possibility of a higher selling price. Taking a patient, strategic approach is a far more effective way of selling your vehicle than rushing the process.  It significantly increases your chances of achieving a successful and profitable sale.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Being on The Hot Rod Podcast

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Brady Wright and Ron Foreman host a show for hotrodders, ratrodders, custom car freaks, steel benders and dream builders to find fun conversations and interviews from the hot rod world! Our very own Chris and Jim Ochs were recently invited to join Brady and Ron to get the word out about Car Corral and of course, to have some entertaining and fun conversation surrounding their love of cars. As we’ve said, Car Corral was built by enthusiasts for enthusiasts.

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1986 – 1989 Mercedes-Benz 560SL: Ultimate version of the R107

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What is a Mercedes-Benz R107?

R107 is the chassis designation by Mercedes-Benz to identify their two-seater roadster which debuted for 1972.  Here in the United States, the R107 was sold most familiarly as the 450SL, the 380SL, and the 560SL, but in the rest of the world it used other designations such as 280SL and 500SL.  But the bottom line is that the R107 is very likely the most recognizable Mercedes-Benz ever built.

Is the 560SL really the best R107?

This question is open to a lot of debate, but most enthusiasts and experts agree, the best R107 is the last version built, the 560SL of 1986-1989.  The R107 line was introduced for 1972, the United States receiving the 450SL.  With seating for two, a package shelf behind the seats, an ample trunk, and a powerful-for-the-day 4.5L V-8 engine and 3-speed automatic transmission, the 450SL immediately established itself as “the” car to have.

The car was elegant and sporty all at once, was favored by both men and women alike, was spirited and agile, yet heavy enough to offer a smooth, quiet ride.  It truly checked a lot of boxes, and costing just north of $10,000 (the rough equivalent of around $75,000 in 2025) it had to.  For 1980, Mercedes-Benz would retire the 450SL, passing the baton over to the more efficient but less powerful 380SL.  It filled the shoes well, sustaining the iconic reputation of the R107.  But for 1986, Mercedes-Benz would supplant any notions that the coveted SL model was slow or peevish by introducing the 560SL.

What was under the 560SL hood?

Powered by a 5.6L V-8 engine with an automatic transmission, the 560SL was the most powerful SL of the decade.  By 1989, the final year of the R107, the MSRP hovered around $65,000 (about $165,000 in 2025 money), making it the most expensive production R107.  For that price, customers took advantage of a host of creature comforts like air conditioning, an advanced stereo system, power steering, 4-wheel power disc brakes, leather upholstery, wood veneers and much more.

The 1989 model year also brought with it a huge level of exclusivity, as the final 560SL rolled off the assembly line in June.  Mercedes-Benz cut production of the 560SL early in order to retool to build the all-new R129 SL.  As such, with 1989 being a truncated year, there were fewer built, making it the rarest. If nothing else, the span of production, from 1972 to 1989 proved the R107 was a true icon of automotive design.

While there is nothing inherently ‘wrong’ with a 450SL or 380SL, Mercedes-Benz devoted a lot of resources to ensuring the 560SL would be better in many ways over the others.  The engine was just the beginning, but it was a great beginning.  It effortlessly pulled the SL during long journeys along ribbons of asphalt and in bumper-to-bumper traffic.  Anti lock brakes added a sense of security.    It coddled occupants with sound-deadening materials and insulation like few others.  The seats were supportive and comfortable.  There really was nothing else like it on the road.  So, while we think any SL is a good SL, for a classic Mercedes, we do have a soft spot for the 560SL.

560SL FOR SALE – what is it worth?

The price range is staggering.  The market will show examples asking for $10,000 to trade hands with premium examples commanding up to about $70,000.  How much you pay depends a lot on the car.  Is it a one owner car?  Does it have all the service records?  Has the car been maintained?  Has it been in any accidents?  The questions go on and on.

But in the world of the 560SL, little details matter too.  For example, the factory wheels should be painted grey, according to experts and enthusiasts.  Weird as it sounds, the chrome wheels can deter some buyers.  The darker colors tend to command more money, but lighter interiors are preferred.  So, a light exterior color and dark interior color might not be great from an investment standpoint, unless it’s a special edition of some kind.  This might explain why so many seek out the light gray, tan, and brown interiors.

Does mileage affect the value of a 560SL?

Mileage has a lot to say about the price too, the low mile cars generally bringing in a premium price.  And, of course, originality play a big factor with these cars.  Does it retain its factory stereo?  Is it rolling on factory wheels?  Has it been repainted or reupholstered?  It’s okay if yes, so long as the quality is there.  But everyone prefers factory, if it’s well kept.  It’s well worth taking a 560SL for an inspection by someone in the know about these cars.  While they are not exactly expensive to maintain, they are not inexpensive either.

Nicely, the 560SL has begun its value ascent, that moment when a car begins to climb in value.  It’s climbing fairly quickly too, so finding a nice quality example now and snapping it up for a fair price is smart.  It’s not likely to lose value over time.  That said, consider what you want to do with it.  Do you want a concours quality car?  Or would you like a high-quality example that will wow people at simple cars ’n coffee events?  Or, are you okay having a car that’s been driven often, sometimes hard, a project car of sorts?  Having this discovery with yourself will help you figure out what you should budget.  While the project car sounds fun, we guarantee, you’re going to spend a lot more money restoring the car than you would if you bought a clean original.

Is an SL convertible worth it?

That’s all in the eye of the beholder.  To us, yes, the SL is usually worth it, and at this point, the R107 is the one to grab.  It’s an iconic car, even in the world of classic luxury vehicles, a car respected.  The value swing is heading up.  It always carries a soft top, but has a hard top as well.  It’s well equipped with cruise control, an air bag, automatic climate control, and exceptional performance for the day.  If bought well, you will enjoy an appreciating classic car that is fun to drive, comfortable, and still modern.

How do you find 560SL parts and accessories?

Nicely, Mercedes-Benz has long lived by the mantra of, “Service Forever.”  For the most part, every part anyone might need for a 560SL is available from Mercedes-Benz.  If it’s not, there is a strong aftermarket community with plenty of options.  Also, there is a massive club following for the SL and Mercedes-Benz in general, meaning these cars are very serviceable.  Our best advice is to join the Mercedes-Benz Club of North America and get involved with your region, even if you don’t yet own a 560SL.

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Why We Need Another Vehicle Auction Platform

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The vehicle auction industry has grown significantly in recent years. Online platforms have emerged, offering a convenient way for buyers and sellers to meet. Despite the proliferation of these platforms, there are several reasons why there’s still a strong need for another vehicle auction platform to enter the market. We explore why a new platform could help both consumers and businesses, and how it could innovate the vehicle auction space.

Fragmentation of the Market

The vehicle auction market is highly fragmented, with many players in the space offering different services, features, and user experiences. While this has been beneficial in providing a range of options for buyers and sellers, it has also made it difficult for users to know where to go for the best deals or most efficient experience. A new platform could consolidate the best features of existing services and offer a more seamless, user-friendly experience that meets the needs of a variety of market segments, from private sellers to car dealerships.

Improving Vehicle Auction Transparency and Trust

One of the biggest challenges in the vehicle auction market is the lack of transparency. This leads to mistrust among buyers and sellers. Often, bidders don’t have access to comprehensive vehicle histories.  Or, bidders aren’t able to inspect the cars they’re bidding on in person. A new platform could address these concerns by offering better transparency. This includes no hidden fees and real customer service interaction. A new platform that encourages accountability for both sellers and buyers is essential. This would ensure that sellers are accurately representing their vehicles. And also, that sellers are ready to complete the transaction in a timely manner should they have the winning bid.

Expanding Niche Markets

Many existing vehicle auction platforms tend to focus on either luxury or high-dollar vehicles.  There is an opportunity for a new auction platform to specialize in a particular niche, such as electric vehicles, classic cars, or even an everyday driver. This would allow buyers and sellers within those niche markets to come together in a space that better caters to their specific needs, making it easier to find the right buyers and sellers for all vehicles.

Innovative Technology and Features

The automotive industry is quickly evolving, and vehicle auction platforms need to keep up with these changes. A new platform could integrate innovative technologies such as proxy bidding, choices for how long the auction will run, and letting the customer decide what their reserve will be. These innovations could improve the auction experience, making it more efficient, reliable, and attractive to new users.

Enhanced User Experience

Many existing vehicle auction platforms focus on catering to one type of user: the seasoned bidder, the dealer, or the wealthy. A new platform could focus on providing a better, more inclusive experience for everyone, from first-time users to seasoned professionals. This could include educational resources for new buyers and sellers, personalized bidding notifications, and an overall smoother experience from start to finish.

Global Reach and Accessibility

As the world becomes increasingly connected, there is a greater demand for a vehicle auction platform that operates across borders and makes vehicle buying and selling more accessible to international buyers. By doing so, it could help individuals and businesses take advantage of global market opportunities, providing access to vehicles that may not be available locally. The logistics of shipping a car internationally has also become easier today compared to years ago.

Competitive Pricing and Lower Fees

Current vehicle auction platforms often charge hefty fees to both buyers and sellers. These fees can eat into profits and may deter some potential users from engaging with the auction process. A new platform could disrupt the market by offering lower fees and more competitive pricing structures. When a new platform is acting in the best interest of their customers, fewer hurdles to sell or buy is key.

Assessing lower fees does not mean that the platform is not of quality.  It simply means that the platform is acting in the best interest of its customers. Just like the customers, the platform’s owners are true enthusiasts looking to provide a better option. By keeping fees down, it would encourage more participation, which in turn would drive more transactions, benefiting everyone involved.

Specialized Vehicle Auction Services for Sellers

Sellers often face significant challenges when auctioning vehicles. They may need to list numerous cars at once or deal with high transaction costs. A new platform could specialize in providing services for dealers, including bulk listing options.  Additionally, an easy-to-navigate dashboard could help sellers track their auctions, monitor bids, and optimize their sales strategies. This makes the selling process more efficient and profitable.

Adapting to the Digital Era

The automotive market is rapidly moving toward digital transactions, with online platforms becoming more important than ever. The COVID-19 pandemic accelerated this trend, and buyers and sellers increasingly prefer to conduct transactions online rather than in person. A new vehicle auction platform could cater specifically to this growing demand. Creating a platform that is designed for digital-first users would target a growing customer base. While there’s a preference for digital business, it’s still imperative that the platforms implement transparency and accountability to earn and retain the trust of buyers and sellers.

Conclusion

The vehicle auction industry is ripe for innovation.  There’s plenty of room for another platform that can meet the needs of today’s evolving market. By offering transparency, better technology, and an improved user experience, a new platform could disrupt the status quo and create a more efficient, competitive, and accessible marketplace for vehicles. Whether it’s expanding into niche markets, or improving global accessibility, the next vehicle auction platform could very well be the catalyst for the next wave of automotive commerce.

By Jim Ochs

Bonded by Car Passion

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A Lifelong Passion: Why It Makes Me the Ideal Partner for Customers

For as long as I can remember, cars have been more than just a means of transportation to me; they’ve been a passion, an obsession, and a key part of my life’s story. From my earliest memories of playing with model cars to spending weekends restoring classic vehicles, my love for cars has shaped who I am. Now, as I embark on a journey to work with others in the automotive world, I want to make it clear that my approach comes from a unique place—one that reflects my genuine passion and personal connection to the car-buying and selling process. I am not a dealer, nor do I come from within the car industry. But it’s precisely because of my love for cars that I’m the ideal person to serve customers who share that same enthusiasm.

Lifelong Car Passion, A Business is Born

While I may not have grown up in the car industry or spent years working in dealerships, I have spent my life immersed in the world of cars. Whether it was working on engines with my father, attending car shows, or spending hours researching different makes and models, my car passion has always been a driving force. For me, cars aren’t just about numbers and profits—they’re about the stories, the experiences, and the joy they bring to those who own and drive them.

Being an owner who comes from outside the traditional car industry means that I understand how daunting it can feel for a customer to navigate the process of buying or selling a vehicle. I’ve been in the shoes of those who want to find that perfect car, one that fits not just their budget but their dreams. I’ve also been on the other side, experiencing the challenges of selling a car and ensuring it gets into the hands of someone who truly values it. This shared understanding makes me not just an advocate for cars, but an advocate for people—people who, like me, are driven by the love of automobiles.

Relating to My Customers

Because I’m not a traditional car dealer, my relationship with customers is built on a foundation of empathy. I don’t view my clients as numbers or transactions. Instead, I see them as individuals with unique stories, dreams, and goals surrounding their cars. I understand the excitement of purchasing a new car, the thrill of finding the right model, and the attachment to a vehicle that has become a part of your life. I also recognize the uncertainty and anxiety that can accompany buying or selling a car. It’s a big decision, and for many, the process can feel overwhelming.

By staying true to my passion and remaining independent of the car industry, I can approach customers with a genuine, personal touch that a typical car salesperson may not be able to offer. I know that when it comes to cars, it’s not just about getting the best price or making the sale—it’s about finding the right match, the right connection, and the right experience. Car Corral’s goal is to help the sellers every step of the way by providing them with all the information they need to make a successful sale. This includes informative guides for photos, valuations, documentation, and just a basic human connection for answering any questions and solving any issues. My passion for cars, combined with my understanding of what buyers and sellers need, makes me a trusted resource for those who are looking for someone who truly cares about their journey.

An Owner Who Understands the Enthusiast

Being someone who has lived and breathed cars for so long, I truly understand the automotive enthusiast’s mindset. For me, cars are not just products—they are works of art, mechanical masterpieces that have their own personality and history. Whether you’re a first-time buyer or a seasoned car enthusiast, I can relate to the emotions that come with finding the perfect car. I know the excitement of discovering a rare model or the joy of breathing new life into a well-worn classic. This passion is something that I share with my customers.

And it’s not just about the cars themselves—it’s about the experience of owning and driving them. Whether it’s the satisfaction of a well-executed restoration, the joy of a smooth, exhilarating ride, or the pride that comes with finding a car that fits your lifestyle perfectly, I understand the value of these moments. My approach is built around helping my customers experience that same joy and satisfaction. I know what it’s like to have a car that becomes an extension of yourself, and I want to help others find that connection too.

Why Car Passion Matters

Being an owner who is deeply passionate about cars means I’m not looking at transactions in terms of quotas or commissions. I’m focused on the people who “walk through our door” and visit our auction listings, and I’m committed to offering a service that reflects my passion and understanding. Unlike traditional dealerships where the focus may be on selling as many cars as possible, I am dedicated to working with customers in a way that aligns with their personal goals and needs. I am not here to push any particular sale—I’m here to help customers make choices that they will be happy with for years to come.

This personal connection makes all the difference. I know that buying or selling a car is often more than just a financial decision—it’s an emotional one. The car you drive can become a part of your identity. That’s why I treat each interaction with the respect and care it deserves, because I understand how important it is to get it right.

Car Passion Drives Trust

In a world full of car dealers who may be more concerned with the numbers, my lifelong passion for cars is what sets me apart. It’s not about closing a sale—it’s about building trust and creating an experience that reflects the joy and pride that comes with owning a car. Whether you’re buying your first car or selling a beloved vehicle, I am here to help you navigate the process with a genuine understanding of what you’re looking for. I may not come from within the car industry, but I do come from a place of true passion and dedication, and that’s what I believe makes me the kind of partner every car enthusiast deserves.

At the end of the day, I’m not just an owner—I’m someone who is just as excited about cars as my customers are. And that shared love for automobiles is what makes all the difference.

By Jim Ochs

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Facebook Marketplace: Impact on Seller/Buyer Trust

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Facebook Marketplace has become one of the most popular platforms for buying and selling items.  From second-hand furniture to electronics and clothing, vehicles and parts have also become popularly listed items. Facebook Marketplace’s user-friendly interface, integration with Facebook’s social network, and vast reach have made it an attractive option for both buyers and sellers. However, this convenience comes with significant challenges.

When it comes to trust between buyers and sellers, there’s a lot to be addressed. The ease of connecting with strangers, coupled with the lack of formal oversight, has led to an atmosphere of caution, where “buyer beware” has become the rule.

Mistrust and the Reliance on Social Validation

One of the biggest concerns with Facebook Marketplace is the inherent mistrust between buyers and sellers. While Facebook provides some tools to help users assess credibility, such as profiles and user reviews, they are far from foolproof. Buyers must often rely on subtle cues like a seller’s activity history, reviews from friends, and the seller’s overall engagement on Facebook. A lack of a standardized verification system means that a buyer must trust the profile behind the listing. Profiles can sometimes be incomplete, deceptive, or even fraudulent.

For example, a seller may create a new profile to avoid leaving behind a trackable history. Or, they may post fake reviews. The reliance on community validation rather than an official review or ratings system means that sellers who are not well-known or active in the Facebook ecosystem are often seen as risky. Without this trust built into the platform itself, both buyers and sellers are often left with no concrete ways to validate one another’s intentions or reliability.

As a result, transactions are conducted with a degree of suspicion. This makes it difficult for people to confidently engage in trade. This caution is significantly magnified when it is long distance. I have experienced in-town listings that are hit and miss. Out-of-town listings seem to be worse with no way of physically seeing or validating the vehicle or person.

The Reality of “Free” Offers: Dealing with Non-Serious Buyers

Facebook Marketplace thrives on “Free” listings. Users are looking to list something whether they actually have the item or not. Often, they do not put too much thought into their listing because it’s always free. For some, it’s an easy way to declutter. But, for others, it can be a form of attraction for scammers or those just looking to waste time.

Sellers who offer items for free often find themselves inundated with messages from non-serious buyers. These buyers may simply ask for more information, offer lowball prices, or fail to show up altogether. The volume of communication, combined with the frequent lack of follow-through, can lead to frustration.  Many sellers are left wondering if “free” is truly worth the hassle.

From a seller’s perspective, offering something for free may seem like an easy way to get rid of unwanted items. But, the reality is that it often comes with a price. Sellers experience time and energy wasted dealing with uninterested parties. The constant communication from non-committal buyers often leads sellers to grow weary of the marketplace.

While “free” may attract a high volume of people, the question arises: is it worth the trouble of dealing with an overwhelming number of unserious inquiries? For many sellers, the answer is no—leading to the belief that paid items, or at least more specific listings, may result in more legitimate interactions and fewer dead-end conversations.

The Heightened “Buyer Beware” Culture

On the flip side, Facebook Marketplace places an immense burden on buyers to ensure they are not getting scammed. Unlike traditional e-commerce platforms, which often have buyer protection programs, Facebook Marketplace offers little in the way of formal dispute resolution or guarantees. When purchasing from someone on Facebook Marketplace, the buyer is often forced to rely solely on the information provided by the seller and the feedback of other users.

This lack of transparency makes it difficult for buyers to fully validate a seller’s credibility. Without any kind of official vetting process or clear guarantees of authenticity, buyers frequently ask, “Is this item legitimate? Is this person trustworthy?” The absence of a built-in method to verify a product’s condition or confirm its origins is a major concern for many shoppers. Even if the item seems like a good deal, there is always a risk of misrepresentation or a bait-and-switch.

For example, when buying high-ticket items, such as electronics or vehicles, buyers often have little recourse if the product turns out to be faulty or not as described. Users often learn about a seller’s poor reputation after the completed transaction. This makes it difficult for future buyers to avoid the same pitfalls. For buyers looking to avoid scams or fraud, this inherent uncertainty can make Facebook Marketplace seem riskier than it’s worth.

The Role of Reviews and Social Connections on Facebook Marketplace

There are growing concerns surrounding trust.  Many users rely heavily on reviews and recommendations from their social circles. Positive feedback from mutual friends or acquaintances can significantly improve a seller’s credibility. This gives buyers a sense of reassurance that they are making a legitimate transaction. Facebook’s integration with the broader social media platform adds a layer of familiarity. This integration can provide some comfort to buyers.

Relying solely on social networks for trust validation still carries its own risks. A glowing review from a friend or a Facebook post may not always be the full picture. Buyers must still engage in their own due diligence. Buyers must verify the legitimacy of the item and the reputation of the seller before committing to a purchase. While social connections can improve trust, they do not guarantee the absence of fraud or misrepresentation.

Conclusion: Facebook Marketplace Has Made an Impact

Facebook Marketplace has reshaped the way people buy and sell items online, but it has also introduced new challenges when it comes to trust between buyers and sellers. Mistrust, the difficulty of validating credibility, and the overwhelming number of uncommitted buyers have made it harder for users to navigate the platform confidently.

While the platform offers great convenience and potential for deals, both buyers and sellers must be vigilant. The absence of strong formal protections and verification systems means that “buyer beware” and “seller beware” are principles that continue to define the Facebook Marketplace experience. Until Facebook implements more robust systems to foster trust, both parties will continue to rely heavily on personal connections and individual caution when engaging in transactions.

By Jim Ochs

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What’s My Car Worth?

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How do you determine your car value?

Every seller who starts to think about selling their car must ask themselves, “What’s my car worth?” There are many tools and resources out there to try and gauge the value of your car. These resources include Hagerty valuation, NADA, Kelley Blue Book, Edmund’s, and so on. Typically, these resources are basing values off selling prices from various online and in-person auctions, marketplaces, etc. Examples of these sites are BaT, Hemmings, NADA, Autotrader etc. The valuation tools will capture the sale price, both high and low, and give an average sales price.

Should I base my car’s worth solely based on a valuation tool?

Soley using a valuation tool to determine your car’s worth leaves a lot to desire. While valuation tools can provide you with a value range, there isn’t enough context as to the conditions of each of the vehicles that contributed to the value calculation. I would use the valuation tools for a baseline. Then, contact an expert on the make and model to get their expert opinion of the value. You can usually Google these kinds of experts or reach out to your trusted social media contacts to steer you in the right direction.

Even in-person auctions don’t always give a realistic picture of a car’s worth. As an example, I have been to several in-person auctions and watched a vehicle roll across the block and sell for big money. Even though the selling price is largely driven by supply and demand, I also wonder if the very car that I just saw roll across the block was worth the price it sold for.

Just out of curiosity, when that vehicle is parked back outside in the sold lot, I will head over and do my inspection. Nine times out of ten, after giving the vehicle a good once over, I am amazed at the money it brought and second of all, the actual condition.

Do in-person auction sales skew a valuation tool’s algorithm?

Yes, this can certainly happen. Why? Many of the big in-person auctions I have attended are fueled by alcohol and egos and this does not result in an accurate valuation of the vehicle. Sure, a nice paint job with popping chrome looks good, but when I start crawling around on the ground and see surface rust, structures that are rusted all the way through, heavy undercoating, and just simple parts or components that weren’t replaced or restored, I think, “This car isn’t worth anywhere close to what it brought.” My case and point – these resources mentioned above are going off past sales to publish their valuations without really knowing the true condition of the vehicles.

Should you even use a valuation tool?

Valuation tools serve a purpose and that is to potentially give some idea of your car value, but keep in mind that it is only a ballpark figure. You must take several things into consideration including the condition of your vehicle.

Is it truly in excellent condition or does it have minor flaws? Is it a low mileage vehicle? Do you have supporting documentation on mileage, previous owners if applicable, maintenance, restoration work, fender tag, and build sheets? Has it been verified as a numbers matching vehicle? All these factors play a role in the value of your vehicle. Just because you’ve seen another one sell for an extreme amount of money, does not mean you will get that for yours.

Perception vs Reality: How to settle on your car value.

To be realistic about what your car is worth, look at valuation sites. Then, look online for the same vehicle in the same general condition as yours. Manual transmission cars will generally bring more money than automatic. Talk to reputable industry experts to gauge the price of your vehicle. You can get an appraisal, but they also go off of past sales to determine a value.

Also, consider the time of year. Convertibles seem to bring more money in the Spring and Summer than they do in the winter. Finally, if you really want to sell, don’t try to set a record that will not be achieved by setting your reserve too high. It is understandable that a lot of owners have sentimental feelings about their vehicles.  This can sometimes lead them to set an unrealistic reserve and the vehicle not selling.

In a lot of car builds, the sellers have put an extreme amount of money into a car. They are expecting to get it all back out and most of the time that does not happen. Research reveals that most restomods or custom cars will be lucky to bring 50 cents on the dollar unless they are built by a big brand, and then you are just paying for the name.

Price the vehicle so you will feel good letting it go for the amount you decide on. If you want too much money for it, you probably don’t really want to sell.

In closing, sellers need to be realistic about what they are selling and what it will actually bring in. Most cars are not investments and will only fetch what someone else is willing to pay.

By Jim Ochs

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How a Seller’s Efforts Impacts a Selling Price

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Selling a vehicle is a lot of work – and it SHOULD BE a lot of work. I have bought, restored, and sold several vehicles before. Every vehicle I have sold, I put a lot of effort into showcasing the work that I had done on it.  This way, the buyer can fully realize the price that I was seeking was just and fair. This is why a seller’s efforts can greatly affect the sale price. Let me explain this in more detail.

We all want top dollar.

Everyone that sells something wants to get the most money for it, and why shouldn’t we? A lot of people attend or watch large car auctions on TV. They see a vehicle that is similar to what they have to sell for big money and their heart starts pumping. In most cases, the make and model are the same, but the car that sold and their own personal car are two different vehicles. I have seen this almost consistently, after a big auction takes place, that cars will pop up online and the sellers are asking for about the same money for their car as the one recently sold at the auction.

For example, let’s say the one at auction was a 1966 2-door Chevelle that had been restored. The one that pops up online is a 1966 4-door Chevelle and the owner wants the same money that the one at auction went for. These are two different vehicles, although they are both Chevrolet Chevelles. The other thing I come across online is someone listing a muscle car that has 4-doors. There was never a muscle car that was manufactured with 4-doors. All muscle cars were built with 2-doors and the era was 1964-1971.

Putting time into taking photos and videos matters.

A seller’s efforts no doubt impact a vehicle’s sale and the price.  A seller needs to put time into the quantity and quality of pictures and videos taken. Potential buyers want to see every aspect of the vehicle, including interior detail, outside detail on every side and corner, inside the engine compartment, inside the trunk area, underneath, wheels, and tires. These pictures should include close-ups and from afar – and don’t shy away from being transparent about any imperfections. Buyers appreciate honesty.

The subject of the photo needs to be clear and centered from top to bottom.  Take vehicle pictures from side to side with no other vehicles or distractions (including surrounding debris) present. Ensure you have plenty of proper lighting as well. Submit videos that are clear and cover cold starts, driving from inside, driving from the outside, and a walk around. While vertical videos are great for social media platforms such as Instagram and TikTok, landscape videos work better for website listings. For further detail on taking photos and videos, we provide a photo guide on our site for reference.

Documentation and record keeping go a long way.

The more records, documentation, photos, videos, or chronological display of the restoration process will instill so much confidence in a buyer. Looking through all these things when making a decision to bid and buy is like them being there when the restoration or chain of custody was happening. It gives them a chance to see the vehicle as if it were being restored, built or even maintained.  This instills confidence in a buyer and they might even spend more because they can see basically behind the scenes. This example especially shows how a seller’s efforts go a long way.

Think like a buyer.

Try and put yourself in a buyer’s shoes. What would you want to see in order to make a decision on purchasing a vehicle? Do you just want to see the pretty pictures of the glossy paint and refurbished chrome?  Or, would you like to see every piece supporting documentation, photos, videos, and maintenance records? Think like a buyer in order to positively influence your impact your selling price.

By Jim Ochs

 

 

 

 

C5 Corvette Z06: 2001-2004

C5 Corvette Z06 Credit Chevrolet

What is a Corvette Z06?

It all started back in 1962, when Zora Arkus-Duntov proposed the idea of continuing to produce performance parts for the Corvette to support private racing teams without officially supporting them.  GM had withdrawn from racing and wouldn’t sanction any factory-built racecars, leaving privateers on their own.

Zora’s idea was fruitful – not only would it unofficially continue to show support from GM, but it would bring in a steady flow of cash and allow Corvette to continue engineering performance enhancing parts.  When GM finally withdrew its ban, Regular Production Option, RPO, Z06 was introduced in 1963, allowing customers to purchase a factory-built, race-ready Corvette.

With a roster of performance-minded components specifically geared for racing, the heart of the matter was the 327 CI L84 V-8 engine with Rochester fuel injection.  Rated at 360 HP, the engine was an additional $1,818.45 over the cost of the base coupe price of $4,252.  Only 199 Z06s were built that year.  Then, the Z06 option would be deleted until it was reintroduced for the Corvette C5.

What is a C5 Corvette Z06?

The Corvette C5 would be introduced for the 1997 model year.  Like the C4 it replaced, it would prove to be another great leap forward in engineering and technology. Customers could buy a hatchback coupe, a convertible, or a new fixed head coupe. The fixed head coupe would be the lightest and stiffest of the family.  It would be on this platform that the new Z06 would be built.

Introduced in 2001 with 395 HP, the 2002-2004 Z06 would deliver 405 HP, making it one of the quickest and fastest production street Corvettes ever made.  It would sprint from 0-60 in 3.9-seconds, clear the ¼-mile in just over 11-seconds, and top out around 171 MPH.  While some argued the C4 ZR-1 had a higher top speed, the Z06 was not necessarily meant to be cut from the same cloth as the ZR-1.

The Z06 was intended to be more road race ready, track oriented.  Creature comforts were kept to a minimum.  Even the windscreen was thinned out to reduce weight, unconcerned with wind noise in the cabin.  As such, the gearing of the Z06 was such that top speed wasn’t of interest, per se.  The Z06 was meant to be quick and agile over everything else, and the new C5 version indeed was.

What engine does a C5 Corvette Z06 have?

It was called the LS6 and was basically a massaging of the popular LS1, which debuted in Corvette C5.  Outside, only red engine covers differentiate the look of an LS6 from an LS1.  But inside, a host of changes were made to improve power delivery and durability.  Modified aluminum pistons are set into cylinders that allowed better breathing and increased strength.  The pistons worked in unison with revised heads to increase compression.  A new camshaft was made from billet with reshaped cam lobes.  Valve spring rates were increased, and the exhaust manifolds were redesigned with thinner walls to reduce weight.

Corvette Z06 Engine

Is the ZR-1 better than a Z06?

This depends on your opinion of “better.”  If your goal is to enjoy spirited driving through curves and corners, the Z06 is likely your cup of tea.  But if you’re willing to compromise a bit on curves and corners to sprinkle in some overall comfort and amenities along with a blistering top speed, then the ZR-1 is more than likely the one you want.  Are you going to drive it daily?  Are you only racing it?  Daily, we lean toward the ZR-1, racing we suggest the Z06.

Is the C5 Corvette Z06 going up in value?

It would be tough to go wrong with a C5 Z06 as a collector’s item, but we would suggest erring on the side of rarity.  Nearly 250,000 C5s were made between 1997 and 2004; of those, roughly 28,000 were Z06s made between 2001 and 2004.  Of those, just 2,025 were Z06 Commemorative Editions produced in 2004.

Finished in Le Mans Blue with silver and red stripes, the Commemorative Z06 celebrated the Corvette C5-R 1-2 finish at Le Mans and used a special carbon fiber hood, special chassis tuning which enhanced both performance handling and general ride characteristics and was lighter overall.  The ’04 Z06 broke the 8-minute barrier for completing the 170-turn, 14-mile Nürburgring race circuit in Germany.

But all this said – the simple rule still applies, look to yourself for the answer.  What is the car that is right for you?  It seems any C5 Z06 will serve well by the seat of the pants and in the long run as a collector’s item.

C5 Corvette Z06 rear CREDIT Chevrolet

Why do we like the C5 Z06?

The Z06 was a remarkable assemblage of enhancing various components and systems to create a racecar for the street.  The engine is a great exercise in modifying to gain more power, the chassis is an excellent example of how well engineered the C5 chassis was to begin with, and the host of little nuances like the side brake cooling ducts that make a C5 Z06 what it is really chalk it up as very cool.

While it won’t be quite as comfortable as some, thanks to lighter use of sound deadening materials and lacking a few creature comforts (like a power antenna) overall, it’s still a car that will prove enjoyable driving around town or across country.  It’s rare, it’s quick, it’s agile, it’s something like 130-pounds lighter than a standard fixed head coupe C5 Corvette.  And who can’t love rocketing from 0-60 in about 4-seconds… while that’s kind of passe for today’s sportscars, remember, this is 2001 we’re talking about.  Very impressive.

We also love the value the C5 Z06 offers.  While so many are romanced by the C6, especially the ZR-1 and Z06 versions, the C5 Z06 has kind of slipped under the radar for the moment.  But it’s largely where the C6 and C7 are rooted.  Because so few were built, we do think they will reach very nice values soon, but at, for the moment, at a lower end of the value curve.  Snap it up before they start climbing any more than they have been.

Photo Credit: Chevrolet

1973 Chevrolet C/K Rounded Line

Chevrolet Rounded Line Truck

What is the most popular Chevy truck ever made?

We’re not 100% sure, but we think it’s likely the 1973-1987 Rounded Line.  It’s a confusing line of trucks.  Not only was it in production for a huge length of time, but when the pickups received new styling for the 1988 model year, the Suburbans and Blazers hung with the squared styling of the Rounded Line through 1991.

What is a Chevrolet C/K Pickup?

The C/K naming first appeared on Chevrolet and GMC trucks in 1960. The C indicated a conventional cab and the K indicated a 4-wheel drive chassis.  Some will contend the C actually meant 2-wheel drive. However, if you scour the internet, you’ll see it written up this way too – so which way does it go?  No one seems to be entirely sure.  Bottom line, it was a way for GM to simplify its truck lineup and compete better with the Ford F-Series.

What is the difference between a Chevrolet and a GMC Pickup?

Honestly, not much.  For the most part, GMC buyers are treated to a higher level of environmental luxuries over the Chevrolet. This became truly apparent with the Rounded Line of the 1970s and ’80s.  During this time, people were using pickups and SUVs more frequently as their only transportation. This made creature comforts and ride quality become paramount with buyers.  GMC didn’t let anyone down.  Outside, their vehicles featured special brightwork.  Inside, upscale upholstery and special woodgrain finishes were met with unique bright materials and plush carpeting to make for a nicer place to be.  The Chevrolet was no slouch either with similar treatments for their topline offerings, but GMC was long known as a kind of gentlemen’s truck.

Did “The Fall Guy” use a Chevy Rounded Line?

One of the many claims to fame for the Rounded Line pickup is from the TV show “The Fall Guy.”  Aired from 1981 to 1986, the main character used a GMC 4×4 single cab pickup as his daily mode of transportation. The truck was extremely similar to the Chevrolet pickup.  Heavily modified with custom paint, chrome, and some unique one-off tricks, it largely planted the Rounded Line pickup series into the psyche of viewers. This representation helped sales tremendously, similarly to how “Smokey and the Bandit” and “Knight Rider” helped Pontiac Trans Am sales.

The Rounded Line would also be seen as a recurring character in TV shows such as “The Rockford Files,” and in movies like “The Driver,” and countless episodes of “The A-Team.”  Indeed, the Rounded Line was a Hollywood favorite.

Chevrolet Pickup-Truck Square Body CK Series Rounded Line

What is the Rounded Line Chevrolet truck?

Introduced in 1973, the Rounded Line of Chevrolet and GMC pickup trucks would span production through 1987, and into the 1991 model year as the Suburban and Blazer.  The Rounded Line pickups were only available as a single cab or crew cab, cutting its market by a fair margin as Ford and Dodge both offered single cab, extra cabs, and 4-door crew cabs.

Known as the Square Body trucks, contrary to what their looks suggest, GM invested in extensive wind tunnel testing and computer aided design software to discover the most aerodynamic shape for their trucks.  The investment paid off well. It was determined that the chiseled shape, coupled with the right slants and slopes and curves, was indeed the most wind cheating figure.  In fact, these trucks would lead the way for the downsized full-size line of GM cars.  This line hit the market in 1977 with cars like the Chevrolet Caprice Classic and Cadillac Sedan Deville.  Many Ford and Chrysler vehicles would quietly mimic the styling as well.

When the 1979 fuel crisis struck, GM revisited the design of the Rounded Line, taking it back to the wind tunnel to see if further slipperiness could be added, and there was.  On top of this, the engineers found the trucks could lose about 300 pounds, making them lighter and more aerodynamic in the process.  This revised model would hit the market in 1981.

Is the Rounded Line Chevy truck an R/V truck?

Yes, but also no.  The R/V line took over for the Rounded Line in 1987.  The R meant 2-wheel drive, the V meant 4-wheel drive.  The name change occurred to better accommodate the forthcoming GMT400 series trucks. This truck series was introduced for 1988, but many still considered these a product of the Rounded Line series.  The R/V line only stood for one year, but not really, because technically, while many still considered the 1987 a Rounded Line, it was an R/V line.  Then the GMT was introduced, and the R/V-Rounded Line would only sustain through the Suburban and the Blazer through 1991.  Very confusing – we know!

1988 Chevrolet K1500 Silverado (left) 1988 Chevrolet K1500 Sport

What’s a GMT400 truck?

Chevrolet and GMC introduced the GMT400 series for the 1988 model year pickup.  Taking on a more fuselage styling and a much more aero-inspired nose, the GMT400 retained some of the original wind tunnel and computer aided design discoveries of the Rounded Line, taking them a step further.  The Rounded Line was revised in 1979 to better cope with the fuel crisis. Released in 1981, it had slightly better aerodynamics and a lighter curb weight, design had begun on the GMT400.  As such, a bit of the Rounded Line philosophies carried over.

The GMT400 became nearly as popular as the Rounded Line.  It would span production through model year 2000, although for 1998, the GMT800 had been introduced.  The GMT400 would remain in production side-by-side, if for no other reason than to consume parts on the assembly lines.

Is the Rounded Line a good truck to get?

The line of GM trucks has long been regarded as one of the best.  Aging beautifully, these classics have become hugely popular as collectibles and as fun trucks to build as a multitude of parts remain available.  They are known to be reliable and robust, simple to work on, inexpensive to maintain, and fun.  Their squared styling is truly eye catching and unique, especially today in a world of ultra rounded designs.  We believe this model is a great way to go if you’re interested in a classic pickup.